Another quality solar thermal design from feklar, or, Weedhopper was a fool and a slacker

I did, and I am in the process of. I'll post the details again once I get them rewritten properly.

Hey, if no one tries, nothing ever gets done. I know more thermodynamics than most people on the street know, but I won't claim to be a trained expert or authority on the subject either. I came here hoping to find those. I'm hoping someone can take the basic design and improve upon it.

These difficulties have been overcome. As I said, I will post it for you once the rewriting of the details are complete. If you are impatient, contact PEMEX in Mexico at Reynosa or Neuvo Laredo.

My original thoughts were to take an elongated quasiturbine and set it up inside the length of the pipe. The inventor of the turbine said that the temperature difference would be great enough for rotation. I thought using a direct exhaust approach might have been more effective. If I am mistaken on that, then I am mistaken.

So replace the pipe and slots with a stationary pipe and install an extruded or elongated quasiturbine inside of it then. According to the quasiturbine inventor, that should get the job done.

Have the two hot quadrants on the top and bottom, and the two cool quadrants on the sides. Use two refelctor troughs, focusing one on the bottom pipe quadrant, the other on the top quadrant. Shield the side quadrants and supply cool air through the ends or at regular intervals along the pipe length.

Or use water or oil as the working fluid instead of air.

Have multiple large oil storage tanks underneath and use them to recirculate the oil and to store heat, at night use a heat exchanger to get rid of the heat.

This would fit in well for use in conjunction with existing solar thermal designs that advocate heating oil to thousands of degrees in the daytime, then using that heated oil to boil water for steam at night.

This would be an excellent application for the quasiturbine concept, since the torque would be high and the rotational speed low, which is how a quaiturbine operates most efficiently.

If you want to try to visualize it, perhaps think a 14 inch external diameter clear glbutt pipe with 4 inch thick walls. The outer side quadrants coated on the outside with shielding material, the top and the bottom quadrants coated on the inside with heat storage conversion mbutt material. In a case like this, no doubt the top and bottom quadrant areas inside the pipe would be routed out somewhat, leaving a thinner pipe wall thickness (2 inches, perhaps) in those areas, so that as much heat conversion material as possible could be installed in those quadrants being brought flush with the internal diameter.

Let me know if you want a google link to the quasiturbine inventor's past comments on this approach.

Like I said, I am no thermodynamics authority. But his guy said that the quasiturbine would work in this type of application just with hot air in hollow hot quadrants vs. cooler air at normal atmospheric temperature in the cool quadrants, and I figured that given that, a direct exhaust method would therefore also work, have fewer parts, and be less complicated to build. Perhaps I was mistaken.

No doubt.

Obviously, glbutt needs to be more mbuttive than most other materials. If you wanted to use structural glbutt pipe for sewer pipe for example, be more than a foot thick. The main consideration with structural glbutt is that it does not tolerate shock well. It can handle reasonable amounts of torque and stress, repeatedly. If work hardening were an issue with glbutt, the lens at Palomar would have cracked many years ago from repebreastive steering stresses from its altazimuth mount. Any metal will work harden. Metal tolerates shock well, but repebreastous application of torque or stress eventually weakens and destroys it. Just repeatedly heating and cooling metal will eventually destroy its properties via work hardening.

But the two main reasons for using structural glbutt is that it is clear, which is required in either the original idea using the quasiturbine or the Hero type "supercharged" turbine idea. It can also be manufactured very inexpensively with the new structural glbutt manufacturing technology that is just around the corner.

There are numerous solar thermal designs that are valid, which this new technology makes economically viable. I must have an ego problem, also wanting to produce a better solar thermal design than anyone else did as well.

If you are interested, the new technology is based on the simple concept of building glbutt panels or pipe by spraying glbutt granules and molten glbutt together, depositing both on the surface and building the surface up, in effect "extruding" the panel or pipe.

Let me know if you are interested, and I will remember to post a link to the details once they have been rewritten. Currently, what is available is hard to read, contains significant errors, and is old material that needs updating. New approaches and concepts exist now that were not present in the original material. If you are impatient, and you want the basics, then ask PEMEX.

This new technology, if implemented on a large enough scale, can solve most of the world 's main problems: economic, food, and energy, just with its two major uses.

1) Inexpensive greenouse contsruction for very large scale biombutt natural gas production via eucalyptus or suger cane beets or similar crops. This can even eventually solve the greenhouse efffect problem, since biombutt natural gas does not increase total atmospheric CO2 as well gas or oil does. Each new crop recycles the CO2 from the last one back out of the atmosphere. Covering a fourth of the currently worthless desert in New Mexico could easily provide 100 percent of the USA's requirements for both natural gas produced electricity and natural gas vehicle fuel, as well as gas for most home heating needs.

Also, greenhouse construction for third world and other food supplies. This technology takes the most worthless arid areas and allows one to grow almost anything there. The technology even provides the means for water desalination and transport for those areas.

2) It greatly reduces housing costs, and creates longer term buttets that do not need to be replaced as often: housing, public buildings, highways, sewer pipes, the list is impressive. If people start paying 50 to 60 percent of what they pay now for their house, and if the lifespan of public and commercial buildings is edtended to many hundreds of years, what will the effect on the economy be?

What I am maily trying to do here is to find an acceptable solar thermal add-on to the biombutt greenouses, since the crops only require about half of the total insolation. No sense wasting the other half, I say.

Re the quasiturbine approach, it might be easier to think of it in say 6 foot lengths rather than 40 foot lengths, and consider that perhaps a 6 foot length of pipe might have five one foot long quasiturbine rotors, 5 sections mechanically linked together via the central rotor, each within its own sealed space within the pipe. Or one six foot long section.

It might also help to consider a cool air supply system. Have heat storage mbutt being heated somewhere nearby to generate hot air, let that hot air escape, and route the replacement cool air through the cool quadrants of the quasiturbine bodies.

So in that case, perhaps use hot oil inside pbuttageways inside the two hot quadrants, and relatively cool air inside pbuttageways inside the two cool quadrants. Or simply route the initial cool oil supply through the cool quadrants before it goes to be heated in a solar preheater, then into the two solar heated quadants, then into another mbuttive heating stage and then into the insulated storage tanks for the night.

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