What do you think those votes and speeches were based on? Original knowledge garnered by their own staffs?
Political support for the Iraq War was based on butturances from the administration that the information being provided was accurate *at the time.*
It now turns out that it was not.
Reappraisal of previous stances is therefore entirely in order.
It's no Lie at all. For it to be a Lie, there would have to be a Demonstrable Truth that is contravened. There is none.
Nope -- sorry, but we have No Evidence of such meetings that we can confirm. We have second-hand reports after the fact, but we know nothing about the personnel attending or the substance of such meetings.
And now we have Dubya's own account, confirmed by Rice and Rumsefeld, that the administration does Not have information sufficient to connect Iraq with 911.
Are they lying as well?
Nope.
We dug ourselves a hold, and now we have to fix it.
But we had no particular interest in such matters prior to the war, and they were not used as a rationale for the war.
The most ludicrous example of this sort of side-stepping was Powell's visit to the Kurdish areas that were gbutted, *back when he was the National Security Advisor!* some 15 years ago.
We knew about the gbutting then, and didn't really much care. But now he attempts to use it as justification for a war Now, when it was not one Then.
Stick to the administration's story from early this year. You know -- the one about the CAPD from the WMDs to the United States, and the connection between Iraq and al Qaeda and Iraq and 911.
That rationale no longer holds any credibility.
Sure -- we have tried to elevate Other Matters into the primary focus of consideration, but that's revisionism as defined. You merely buy into it. But you were always going to regardless of any other information, so no surprise there.
Ah -- so Your latest explanation is that we did it as a means of Psychological Self-Improvement?
Gotta give you credit -- that's a New One!
Where did you get it? Come from a talking point list, or just from your own overheated imagination?
But arguendo, let's say it's true.
We're spending hundreds of billions and wasting American lives to give ourselves a larger dose of Self-Confidence.
Sheesh -- it would have been less expensive and dangerous just to go on a rock-climbing outing with Outward Bound, if that's true.
You're either Hilarious or Ridiculous. I'll reserve judgement while you continue that train of thought. It'll derail eventually.
Heh!
Well, the train keeps rolling, certainly.
But hey - see if you can get the administration to sell it publicly. I'd like it to become part of the upcoming presidential campaign.
I do what I do because it pleases me. You are free to do what pleases you. There are Far More Important things to discuss, seems to me.
Though if that's all you can handle, have at it.
No aspirin factory was Ever planted.
That's one of the arrows in diplomacy's quiver. But one tends to use the lower levels before resorting to military actions.
Which is Entirely As It Should Be, seems to me.
You little armchair Warhawk Heeroes merely want to have your hormone levels improved by placing Someone Else in danger. I don't find that particularly appropriate.
As good a non sequitur as there is.
Dubya dug this hole. Not JC and not WJC. Dubya.
Nope -- not them either. Hamas support derives primarily from Saudia Arabia.
Their opinion doesn't matter, since their actions aren't going to change either way.
It would have to be, to respond to your lame questions.
But it's your questions that are without foundation in the first place.